when i was a kid i remember watching the detroit lions game and seeing a player get hit on the field. every time i watch a kickoff, i'm dreading it. i'm holding my breath. there's that. then you also have the fact that sports are this amazing way to meet people. you can go to any place and make enemies, fenemies or friends. >> across partisan divides. that is the amazing thing about sports. that was the amazing thing about the unanimity on the refs. the thing you were saying about the dangers of football. we'll talk about this and do our own discussion on it after the election about traumatic brain injury, but because football is so dangerous, i mean, it's a very unsafe workplace, the nfl football environment. if anyone needs a union, it's people operating in an incredibly, incredibly, incredibly dangerous environment. >> i think that's why in the last nfl player lockout there was a lot of sympathy for the players. usually these things break down, millionaires versus billionaires. people were saying in a way they never have before, these guys are putting their heads on the line. even